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thetonewrecker



Joined: 23 Sep 2007
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Location: Minneapolis

PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 10:42 pm    Post subject: no keyboard is a wise move! Reply with quote

I wanted to note that I appreciate the unit forces you to go integrate it with some other gear and it looks like the midi to cv unit really got some thoughtful consideration.

You made mention about a free standing version of this conversion box..any ideas when that may see the light of day? I've been using a rather new, but unique stand-alone midi sequencer (Genoqs Octopus) and there's many users looking to integrate it with CV/Gate options.

This may fit that quite nicely.

cheers.
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GMattson



Joined: 15 Sep 2007
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 11:14 pm    Post subject: MIDI 2 CV Reply with quote

"You made mention about a free standing version of this conversion box..any ideas when that may see the light of day? I've been using a rather new, but unique stand-alone midi sequencer (Genoqs Octopus) and there's many users looking to integrate it with CV/Gate options. "

Actually, we didn't. At least I didn't. There has been discussions about it but, it's not mine to determine. Scott is a moderator here and will have to answer that.

Oh, yeah!-my letter. I forgot about that. (snap) A lot has happened since I wrote that. Smile

Scott designed it for me. It's his circuit and software. I told him what I wanted it to do. Commercial versions may be more "universal".

That's also why I can't sell it "stand-alone". I can make them and sell them as part of the system but, not as individual units.

Thanks for the compliments.
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Scott



Joined: 17 Sep 2007
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 1:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The rumors are true; I will be coming out with a standalone version of the MIDI-CV converter. As far as an exact time frame, I'm not entirely sure yet. I need to get through the MMM launch stuff first.

I also want to get some input from people like you who might possibly have a need for such a converter or are already using one. What would you like to see it do? Now is your chance to help shape it and make it useful. The initial version is going to be based on the one I designed for the MMM but some things will need to be different. For example, should the mod wheel continue to drive a separate 0-5v output or should it modulate the main CV? Does it need an S-Trig output?

Later down the road I will be making a multi-out version that has even more features, so even if your suggestions don't make it in this version they would probably make it into the next one.

Thanks in advance for your input!
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JPM



Joined: 22 Sep 2007
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 3:51 am    Post subject: MIDI-to-CV suggestions Reply with quote

Scott wrote:
... I will be coming out with a standalone version of the MIDI-CV converter....
(Some) things will need to be different. For example, should the mod wheel continue to drive a separate 0-5v output or should it modulate the main CV? Does it need an S-Trig output?


Separate modulation output, for sure. It can easily be summed with the pitch CV when needed, sp I wouldn't tie them together.

A velocity CV would be nice, as would a trigger output.

I don't see the need for S-Trig, though I don't use a Minimoog.
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GMattson



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 4:06 am    Post subject: The Mod output Reply with quote

I never explained why I specified a seperate output for the mod out jack.

Instead of being stuck with a 7Hz triangle software LFO to modulate the CV output, I decided to bring the mod output out seperately as a 0-5V output voltage during the full mod wheel rotation.

The idea was: You could mix Whatever CV's you want and run them into the "audio" input of an second VCA. The MIDI mod output would then be patched to the "envelope" input of the second VCA. The second VCA output could be patched to whatever "mod" input you want to affect either the pitch, filter cutoff or amplitude of the audio VCA.

This allows a selection of whatever CV or modulation source, or mix of CV's you want to be controlled by the mod wheel.

It just adds a lot of flexibility.
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thetonewrecker



Joined: 23 Sep 2007
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 4:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah..what George said!

I'm coming into this with about 25 years of midi work and the only CV being Roland X0X boxes triggering each other, or making expression jack inputs on guitar pedals go auto-wah.

I think with the vast variety of sequencer options people have whether it is via Ableton Live, Cubase/Logic, or even stand-alone hardware like the Octopus getting so many different Midi CC running is painless. It'll come down to the cost of how many jacks can you put on the convertor in the given space.
Hell if it's christmas wish time...give me a cv jack for every available midi CC that spits out info. It would be overkill for sure! Smile
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cebec



Joined: 22 Sep 2007
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would absolutely love to see microtuning support and high resolution converters. The only MIDI/CV converter that supports microtuning is the MOTM-650 module and it requires rackmounting hardware and a huge power supply.
I would buy your converter in a MIDI clock tick.
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